Surfside has a minimum of 900 square foot size for a dwelling.
Pacific County has a minimum of 450 square foot.
The "tiny" home pictured below is approximately 500 square foot.
This home is located at 295th and I Street.
This type of beach place would be perfect for a couple or a single person, or as a beach retreat.
The smaller foot print would allow it to be built in small lots, especially those with a setback along the waterways. At present we have lots that are "un-buildable" because there simply is not room for a 900 foot dwelling, the set backs and septic systems.
If the members were able to place this on an RV lot, we would see less part time RV's and less need for RV storage.
A smaller foot print would provide more open space and vegetation for ground water absorption, plus have an attractive setting. Perfect for a beach community.
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I agree. It's an adorable little house and they would look great on the little lots that are too small for a larger home. They just make sense.
It appears that required set back rules have not been met by this structure. It is sitting at the edge of the street.
5:16. “Appears” is not definitive. Please present proof to justify your criticism..
Why don't you drive by and take a look 6:38? How about you proving that it is within the county ordinances for set backs if you have doubts?
This is a very attractive tiny house, but I do believe that a variance can be obtained from the current restrictions for those lots that don't have room for a septic/drain field and larger home, but most already know this.
7:21 That would not be the case for the site of this picture. The lot is huge or possibly two lots.
7:31, Not True
I would jump on a tiny house like this pretty quick. I have a lot that is odd shaped. large enough for the min. home size, but would take a lot of space up and hinder most of the good use. This would be great for our short vacation use, and I'd no longer have to bring my RV every time. Could just pull up. No RV for the neighbor to stare at. Unfortunately in my are of SS, manufactured or even this type of home is not allowed...
7:18. Don’t try and turn it around. You made the statement. It is up to you, the owner of the statement, to verify it. You are merely one of those folks who think they are always correct, no matter what you say, we call them “those who believe the world is float”.
I saw this the other day, in the old Can Man lot, better then what was there before, dilapidated single-wide. I like these tiny homes and have considered them before I decided to build a larger home.
I think these types of structures should be allowed only on lots that are currently unbuildable; but the lot must be capable of having a septic system and drain field.
As for the setbacks, it is my understanding that these homes don't require a setback because they are "technically" a trailer with a structure built on it, even with the skirts.
Do you think that this J Place board cares about members with small lots where this type of beach cabin would work? Hell no. They only care about their ridge top perch. As long as we have a board dominated with J Placers, nothing will change that might benefit the majority of members. Why should they do anything? They have every thing their way now.
There are some realistic concerns about this type of RV in high wind areas. They stand tall and narrow which is a recipe for disaster in a wind storm.
Tall metal sheathed pole buildings fit your standards 10:24. Getting real tired of all these "sky might fall" reasoning. Bubble wrap anyone?
These RV's are not usually set in place with a foundation as a pole building would be. Dangerous during high wind storms for sure!
Look again pole building expert.you act like we live in tornado alley. Oh, thats right, lot of mobile homes there. Stick built, mobile homes, trees. Wind bad enough it dont matter. You want to worry bout wind damage, worry bout dead trees, not tall ones. Like the ones on top of the ridge.
If you have to worry. Untethered rv's and sheds should be your first concern.
So why are sheds on RV lots supposed to have only "temporary foundations"? Many owners have ignored this restriction, wisely. If you own the property you should be able to build a decent shed fitting to ANY property, and anchoring the structure on a foundation is safer and more secure.
Well personally I like the appearance of a nice RV compared to a oversized livable shed. It looks cheap but with that I know these tiny homes are not cheap they are quite spendy.
By the way I am an RV lot owner in surfside.
My personal opinion it looked better with a 5th RV on that lot.
It did not look like a shed to me. They seem to be getting really popular. I see shows about them on TV. Would they allow a garage with them? There are some in Ocean Park and they have garages. There also seems to be a wide price range. I would love to live in one.
Price is something to think about. A real nice "park model" is what they're usually called, runs from $80-100k. The nice 1k sqft beach house that was promoted by the blog recently is a great example of a home for SS, and according to the tax assessment has a value of $130k if I recall. So lets say it's 130k., It'd probably be better to save more and get the real house at that rate. Tough though cause home building isn't easy to coordinate and as others have pointed out, not all lots are friendly to it.
If I were a builder looking to drum up work, I'd take a serious look at "making a deal" at SS to work with members and get as many as I can to decide to build or upgrade and offer homes that fit well in our neighborhood such as the nice 1k sqft cabin having a reduced rate for a development type cost due to so many homes in such a small area. The board could help promote this and it would be possible RV users would dwindle if they had some planning support and a discount as a result.
I think the part of our problem is there is no vision for SS. Just current status. A lot of people quote "status quote" and it's annoying, but it's really true. The only real fight and push is to just keep things as they are. I think people are really hungry for a vision, something to aim towards that's better than what we are. It's like we need a new CEO that has vision and will take out the duffers and help the company move forward. I'm not pleased with the BOT that is perpetually the same folk, but I wish they had a vision... something nice we could all be proud of. I'm not proud of scrubby trees and a bluff with triple decker houses.
You missed the point Stickless, the tiny house is a alternative to those that can't build a min SQ FT home on lots that are to small or have setback restrictions.
Another option is to allow these owners to build a smaller stick built home on their lots.
A prime example of an outdated covenant that cannot be modified by the membership. Why is that? Why are we not following County regulations?
I don't want a bunch of tacky, mostly uninhabited and unmaintained glorified RV's in Surfside. They would not be paying a fair share of property taxes but still want all the services at the expense of those who own lots with homes on them.
Those of you who want a haven for RV's should look around and realize that Surfside is building more and more homes with fewer lots being used by campers.
1:24 should not have bought in Surfside. You knew the covenants allowed RV's. You made a poor buyers choice with a purchase here.
These tiny so called houses look no more than a storeage shed with an overhang for a deck. I'd much rather see an RV
Glad you like to see RV's, because there are going to a lot more. Enjoy
Surfside will never allow this style of tiny home(liveable storage shed).
Financially I can't understand why a person would want to. Less money to build a house.
Now with that said a person could build a nice looking small house of 600- 900 square feet. With a nice design also on the lots that are small
600 to 899 is not allowed in Surfside. Did you read the topic? And yes, Surfside will allow the smaller size. It is just a matter of time.
5:50 said that he "can't understand"
That pretty much sums him up. Maybe he should get someone to help him. Some people just can't be helped.
These tiny manufactured square box homes(storage sheds) will never be allowed in Surfside.
They are rapidly gaining popularity in the country and our county. "Never say never" They will be allowed and much sooner than you think. Just wishful thinking on your status quo pea brain.
8/26 @ 1:24PM. We provide our own water and compactor so the only County services are for the roads. Property taxes have little bearing on maintaining our infrastructure. In fact since RV's are part time one might argue that they pay far more than their fair share.
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