The Annual Meeting is scheduled for Nov. 21st. The deadline to submit a Board position application is Sept4th in person at the office or have arrived by mail. You can pick up an application at the office, or print it from the Surfside web page at surfsideonline.org Do not name me as a proxy.
Wednesday, August 5, 2020
Board Election and Annual Meeting
Well, It looks like they are going to attempt to have an election and Annual Meeting. They do not say where it will be held. These fools can't leave well enough alone. How will there be nominations from the floor? They will just continue to hand pick their choices. To hell with the rules. No way will I attend, and would bet they will not get a quorum to validate a meeting.
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No indication that I could see of how many seats would be voted on. I would assume 4? How can they have a member meeting if no quorum? Will it still be proxy vote? For this year it should be by mail in ballot.
I also loved in the July minutes how maryann’s questions were not addressed by the board during open meeting time. So much for questions from the floor!
I am just amazed by the ignorance of this Board. Don't they get it that we are in a major crisis in our Country, State and locally? The smart thing to do, would to have continued with 5 Board members. They could have avoided all the legal mess they are creating for themselves. The members are not going to attend any in person meeting. We may have a vacine by next year, and then be able to resume some regular functions, but not now.
The tree committee has become pro-active and writing complaints. They give the complaints to the compliance officer, so they can hide behind anonymous. Please ;eave the members alone, at least for a year. We have members struggling with health and financial issue and they don't need more dumped on them with complaints. The budget committee should reduce dues and assessments by at leat 10% and best if 20% These people just don't get it.
You won't even travel a short distance to a board meeting to report accurately what goes on so no big surprise you won't be attending the annual meeting.
A proxy vote and a ballot vote are the same damn thing if you fill it out completely and turn it in. Or show up at the meeting and receive an actual ballot. An outside firm tabulates them. The process could not be an easier. The continual bashing of this process is totally unwarranted. The J Place " faction ' is bs. Run for the gd board if you feel unrepresented. And calling your friends and neighbors fools is unwarranted.
No they aren't Larry! I don't give a damn about your opinion! You aren't a member here. Go sham proxy vote with your phony Arizona clan!
Read the new WA RCW 64.90 Larry! READ IT! I'll bash the process all I want Larry! I'll bash the process as long as the process is rigged Larry!
Wait, so Larry isn't welcome here because he isn't a member and his opinion doesn't align with yours yet another non-member, Patrick J. is welcome?...
Hmmm - so much for differing opinions...
Don't worry about 10:10 and 10:12. The extent of their effort is whining of this blog.
The Faction
Patrick J doesn't come on here supporting the Faction, spouting lies, or spouting misinformation!
Hmmmmmmmmm
Patrick J was run out of town by Surfside leadership.
I have no idea why Larry left. Larry has even come on here stating that the sun burns brains.
Patrick J has started a blog of his own to try to change hoa laws and improve hoa lives of many.
What is Larry doing to improve hoa lives of many? What is Larry doing other than coming on someone else's blog for which he has no interest, directly or indirectly, supporting the Faction, spouting lies and misinformation?
Larry, what did you mean by, "...it doesn't end well."?
Remember how there wasn't an overhang regulation until Patrick J got elected to the board and began an effort to improve the governing documents and our committees. Hmmmmmmm.
Remember how the hoa lost the lawsuits against Patrick J. Hmmmmmmmmmmm.
12:52, 1:00, 1:01, 1:13, and 1:15
AKA the same whiner who doesn't do anything but come on this blog and complain.
We are okay with that - keep it up.
Elitist, J-Place, Faction Member
To the 1:13 comment.
There were shed reg's in place before the election. Most people followed them and built sheds. The board had to expand them due to the fact Patrick decided to build a mini cabin, not a shed. He also did so with out having his plans approved.
10:25 makes a valid point.
Larry, I've been here 18 years, and I call BS!
If you don't want to be part of the solution, at least don't be part of the problem! The fact that you deny the Faction exists even though they are posting out here speaks volumes.
This go along, get along crap has got to end. We are being screwed!
Hehehehehe! Hmmmmmmmmmmm
I've done more than come on this blog and you threaten me, call me names, belittle me, berate me, try to intimidate me, condescend me, and threaten me with physical violence.
Why did April retire Clancy?
I'm glad the hoa hired a security detail for last year's Annual Meeting and election.
I repeat Gary Williams style. PATRICK J WON HIS LAWSUITS VERSUS SURFSIDE HOA!
@4:26 - exactly what have you done other than add drama and who is the "you" accused of doing all those horrible things to you?
Sincerely,
The Faction
503 - you ARE the drama Faction Fool!
This board is nothing but a bunch of self-interested idiots, with delusions of adequacy. They cannot supply basic services, and think of new and inventive ways to screw with the membership.
Let's get rid of this useless piece of garbage. And 503 with it.
@8:48
5:03 or 4:26 - Which poster is more logical and doesn't resort to names or exaggeration?
Easy to see who is delusional and the drama.
Will wait to see any changes you are able to bring about.
Again, how many seats will be voted on? Three or four? The candidates could have a forum on Zoom in order to actively address questions
I agree JoAnne having a Zoom forum for candidates. Send your questions in and all candidates answer each question.
Hehehehehehe he wears panties and is the size of a hobbit. Hahahahaha. He's little mikey, mikey, bottle man, crazed weasel, mentally retarded, psychotic.
I agree too JoAnne. It could be a town hall forum. That would be great.
We’ve sure had our thoughts about selling, but we’re not going to let a few ruin it for the majority! It can be changed! We need some new candidates to the board in November. Think about it!
Must be able to vote by mail this time and have a forum to ask questions! These one sided meetings are not how HOAs are supposed to operate!
Are you running @JoAnne? Or will you just continue to complain on the blog?
By the time you are nearing 80 years of age or older, you shouldn't have to answer to such obnoxious questions. How old are you anonymous know-it-all ? I'm 68 and this has not been a great year for me, healthwise, but I'm workin' on it, and I'll have better years. Serving on the BOT is a personal choice of how you want to spend your time.
There are around 4000 members, many much younger, who could step-up and serve. As it is, only about 1/7th of the memberships even vote annually. Voicing opinions is what the blog is intended for. Expressing an opinion doesn't make it mandatory you become a BOT candidate. I'll bet you're not running, "anonymous". You have to stand for something, and put your name to it.
While I'm sure @JoAnne appreciates your protection, 3:38 had a valid, not obnoxious, question.
Age isn't a barrier, whether old or young, regardless of what you think.
Age is not a barrier , I agree, but priorities have to be established! I would love to serve on the board, but I know my limitations and must limit my stress levels! I will continue in expressing my thoughts and opinions and hope to help improve our community in a positive manner!
Thank you Steve for having my back and saying so.
People should be able to have healthy conversations without the fear of being attacked. I’ve tried to be very respectful in my opinions, but I’m very serious about changes and simplicity that would improve our HOA
I know from my previous experiences that putting ideas together and sometimes coming to a compromise results in the best decision
For something different. Regardless of your political choices, one should recognize that the only flag authorized to fly on the same staff as the American flag is the POW/MIA flag, and always below the Stars and Stripes. To do otherwise proves your lack of history of the United States. That is why most states capitals have at least 2 if not 3 separate staffs. I am hoping that with the influx of people escaping Portland and Seattle that some will have individual thoughts and perhaps after a year or so that they will take an active role in righting this sinking ship of an HOA. My hopes to you to all as I leave you now.
Watch out JoAnne. They're coming for you. They seek to destroy any who want membership approval of governing documents amendments and vote by mail, and many other membership centered improvements.
My only hope is that since you are older and a woman they will not be as ruthless in attacking your personal traits.
908 - JoAnnes not alone. Storm clouds are circling this HOA.
4:01 I know from discussions I had with members before the lighting covenant hearing, there are quite a few members with concerns about Surfside. When I hear of people selling out and actually moving and others who are contemplating this, I think it’s time to have some open dialogue!
We should be able to work together to make our community an easy place to live in!
6:17....The question was obviously asked with ill-intent, demanding justification for JoAnne's having opinions about the HOA. This same crap comes up from time to time - the claim that you aren't entitled to an opinion about community matters unless you're willing to run for the BOT. That is just horseshit. WE are the members who pay dues to support the HOA, WE are the members who are represented by the Board of Trustees.
Do you think you have a right to opinions about State and Federal government ? Of course you do ! And I'll bet you're NOT running for State or Federal elective office. To pretend that someone nearly 80 years old owes YOU an explanation justifying that they are entitled to an opinion is truly asinine.
Slow day for you Mr. Cox?
418 - Steve is stating the obvious, but due to the dysfunction of this organization it's not quite as obvious as it should be.
We have the right to our opinions. It's not a tough concept, except in the confines of this particular HOA.
Yes, we all have opinions, including 6:17. Mr. Cox, and the others who think they have the only opinions that matter, can save the self righteousness...
I have noticed a general lack of tolerance toward differing opinions from those who oppose the status quo and those who support the status quo. I have also noticed a severe lack of civility from many bloggers on both sides of the issues. Steve is correct. We are all members and we all have a right to our opinions. We tend to exercise our rights vigorously on this blog. This blog has been around for years. Has it made Surfside a better community? Has it contributed to positive tangible outcomes in community issues? What effect does this blog have on Surfside?
6:17 has not offered an opinion about a current issue, only seeking to scold JoAnne for expressing her views, but not as a candidate for the Board. There is no correlation between the two, so 6:17 isn't expressing a valid point of view, but basically telling her to shut up. This is so typical of these anonymous yahoos. All they seek to do is be insulting. So back atcha.
Representative governance depends on member participation, opinions, suggestions and criticisms. That is a niche the Blog seeks to enable. The Board isn't really comfortable with members having opinions or critical views, and 6:17 reflects that attitude. "There wouldn't be any problems if people would just stop having opinions." Right ? That translates to a fear that new ideas may actually make things work better. It's self-defeating.
Mr. Cox, I guess you are including yourself in that yahoo reference since it has been confirmed you also post anonymously.
11:59 in my opinion this blog at least allows members to converse with each other! There is absolutely no platform to voice any opinions or concerns to the board. I’ve suggested that they should include a section in the weekender for questions and answers, but nothing yet!
There does seem to be more than used to be with negative or snarky remarks on this blog. A person shouldn’t feel guaFred or afraid to put ideas or opinions out there!
Thanks Steve. You have every right to post anything you want as you should have been on the board this past year!
As I’ve asked numerous times, does anyone know if 3 or 4 seats are up for election?
I have to disagree with you JoAnne. There are platforms to express your opinions and concerns to the board. You can write them a letter. You can send them an e-mail. You can call them on the telephone. The board is very accessible. I have used all of the methods listed. Most have been very responsive. All have been polite and listened to my concerns. I have found it is always more productive to talk to someone than about someone.
5:36......fake news
And I have to disagree with you anonymous 5:36. I’m glad you got response from communications sent via Email, but I have not. I have 4 copies of emails that I received no written response.
A couple of my phone calls were received with courtesy and answers, however one important phone call to a board member concerning the proposed lighting covenant was not. I was told he saw no problem with the new proposed covenant and planned to vote for it! I thought there was to be discussion before decisions were made!
I just think a public forum so others can see the questions and answers would help in clarifying many issues. Perhaps a space in the Weekender? I am not talking about anyone, I’m just a person that believes in the majority of the membership being represented, not just a few. My opinion on the tree issue is that cutting down all these trees amounts to being environmental terriosts! Strong language, but true in the Tim’s were living in now!
I worked in the forestry industry most of my life. I have participated in the harvesting of millions of board feet of timber. I am not an environmental terrorist anymore than someone who lives in a house constructed with wood products. Trees are not sentient or sacred. It is common for communities to regulate their trees. As they grow they become hazardous to structures and block views. It is irresponsible for a property owner to allow their trees to become a nuisance to their neighbors. My neighbor just planted three spruce saplings within inches of my property line. As they grow they will encroach on my property and become a hazard to my home. I will not discuss this with my neighbor. He will just find it hard to grow spruce trees so close to my property.
Don't be surprised when you get an email response which includes a sentence at the end in all caps. Yelling at your members is not professional at all, no matter what the member says or what the attitude is of the member.
10:32 anonymous, I was raised in eastern Oregon and am very familiar with the lumber industry and the forest management background. Your comparison is apples and oranges, sorry but this cutting down trees for the benefit of views is ludicrous! If the HOA was serious about trees being a threat or dangerous, the east side of our HOA should be the first place to start!
If it’s irresponsible for trees to be a hazard, take a drive on the east side!
Shhhhhh! Dont get em started or we end up in a wasteland like surfside began as.
12:05....I haven't written an unsigned comment in at least a year. I have never been in the business of sniping on the Blog, which you know is what I am referring to when I say "Yahoos" - clowns with nothing to add to the conversation but baseless accusations and disrespect.
If I'm going to publish my comment, I'm willing to put my name to it. Few who write on the Blog can say that. It's a chicken sh*t practice, and is a detriment to any conversation.
Apparently 10:32 doesn't recognize the difference between tree species, and their very different characteristics. It is NOT common for communities to have restrictions anything like Surfside. Please tell us where they are if you insist this is true.
In addition, humans have complex minds that have the ability to see spirituality in many things and many places. Perhaps you are not fully mentally functional, if you do not respect that aspect of your fellow earthlings. The earliest religions on the earth show deep respect for nature, as do all native cultures.
The practical needs of an over-populated planet require the harvesting of vast amounts of timber, oil, gas, minerals, fish and wildlife. You will find that all people who hunt wildlife for their subsistence, consider their harvesting animals for food a spiritual experience, and pray over their kill, as a gift to their survival.
You have to be really empty-headed to look at a tree several hundred years old, and not grasp the significance of the presence of a living thing far older than any other living thing. So no, we don't look at stands of second growth 50 year-old trees as sentient beings, but there is enormous power to be experienced in the presence of trees hundreds of years old, if you're fully functional.
Shore pines are not used for lumber, and don't grow over 30-35 ft tall.
Cox, dude, you really are too much.
Thank you for continuing to be an expert on all subjects (covenants, trees, what people are thinking, etc.) and for speaking for ALL hunters (who hunt wildlife for subsistence)regarding their spirituality and praying. Also appreciated (not) are the direct and subtle insults consistently applies to anyone who doesn't view the world from your lens.
Right on Cox! Run for the board this year! Will you go door to door to play the proxy game?
We already have all the proxies we need.
The Faction
12:57....If you're going to make such stupid comments, you can expect that someone will tell you it's stupid. What is obvious is, what is spiritual to one person, is not necessarily seen as so by another person. People who live in wild places have reverence for those places. People who live off the land have reverence for the forces of nature, and consider the land and it's creatures to have spiritual qualities.
Am I talking about EVERY single person ? Yeah, because the rest are too stupid to understand the dynamics of natural places, and do not adequately respect it. They die.
Just because you may like to kill living things doesn't mean you have respect for what you are doing, or have any spirituality what-so-ever. Those who depend on hunting to survive, know that game is not always plentiful, and they may experience hunger at times. It makes a person appreciate fresh game when they have it. I'm certain you do not live a subsistence lifestyle, or know what the hell you're talking about. Hope that's helpful.
4:30.... Thank you Mike Riley. You never stop adding drivel to the Blog. I'm not running for the Board, so I guess I WON'T go door to door. Okay ?
Your right. Awesome!
Go cut your trees losers
Fellow The Faction Member
Sorry Mr. Cox, I don't find anything from you helpful.
Just a bunch of hot air from someone who wants to be seen as an expert on everything and who clearly didn't get the attention so desperately desired from whatever career you had.
Hope that's helpful.
I was just asking. I wasn't trying to be negative. Unfortunately and I realize now, if one wants to get elected, they will have to play the proxy game.
Yes that is helpful.
HOA's are granted powers that enable them to restrict and enforce view protections. I have posted multiple examples showing this is permissible in Washington courts. I challenge Mr Cox to prove that views are not protected. Put up or shut up!
Show us in our by-laws or covenants where a view is promised!
7:33....You have offered up only one tired old example from the Seattle area many years ago. Your basic premise is false. HOAs do not have magical provisions that give them the power to control whatever they wish on individual plats.
They can make rules about whatever they choose, but that in itself does not make the rules legal. It is probably routine for residential communities to have building height restrictions, and that is what Surfside has, and chooses to claim also limits tree heights. That has not been proven legal. Trees are private property, and as so, should not be subject to any blanket restrictions requiring owners to top and permanently damage their trees.
This policy has destroyed the appearance of Surfside, and under the pretense that ALL trees west of the ridge must be topped, has damaged property values of 3/4 of the community. A couple hundred J Pl. homes are the only properties said to be "entitled" to a view, as they were marketed as such 30 or 40 years ago. The covenants do not verify this claim.
All that needs to be done is for the BOT to show some conscience and act in the name of fairness for all members -and change the policy. Owners should organize behind a mandate to end this policy. I personally have no responsibility to prove anything regarding this ridiculous policy. It is an obvious inappropriate infringement on private property rights, but it is up to the people negatively impacted to do something about it.
I believe that my unshakeable opposition to this policy is why the Board refused to appoint me to Mr. Chandler's seat which I was entitled to as a matter of precedents followed by the BOT for many years. They fear how easy it would be to eliminate this policy, given some motivated people and some momentum for change. I'm not in any way radical, just fair and practical. There should be no entitlements entertained by this HOA, showing preferences to ANY group of individuals, save handicapped members.
Bottom line stevie is you DO make anonymous comments. Just because YOU say it has been awhile doesn't change that fact. Meanwhile you name call and belittle those who do the same, which makes you a hypocrite. Coincidentally they are also comments that don't agree with you.
You have also made false accusations against others, so you are also a Yahoo and a clown.
246 - sure you're not the hypocrite here, bully boy? You don't know who makes anonymous comments out here, you just blowing your piehole.
Steve scares you, because by all that's right, he should be on the Board. He makes sense, something you lost long ago.
Thanks 4:16/Steve
2:46....I don't need to hide behind the "anonymous" shield, so no, I DON"T write anonymous comments. I've gotten sick and tired of the crap people say because they don't have to own their own comments.
And no, I'm not an embittered unhappy man - far from it. I have a great wife, beautiful family, a home in the City, and a great little beach house. We have a very comfortable life, and are healthy and well fixed for a long retirement and beyond. Things could change for the worse for all of us so I don't take anything for granted. I feel very fortunate to have the life I do.
Thank you, all who back me up. I don't wish anyone ill, but I don't put up with meanness and disrespect without calling it what it is.
I heard a young guy griping about having to wear a mask in the grocery store today, claiming all of the Pandemic is a lie. Well, something sure killed the shit out over 170,000 Americans in about 4 months, and this pitiful fool is lucky not to be one of them. It's well worth the inconvenience to wear my mask, as I have plenty to live for.
Well said Steve! I am so very tired of the anonymous posts that have nothing to add but childish remarks! This could be a very productive and interesting place to share opinions and ideas, but it seems to just have these posts that are sometimes just cruel. George doesn’t have the time to clean up the useless comments, so perhaps we could act like adults and quit hiding behind “anonymous “. If you feel strongly about your opinion, you should back it up by identifying yourself
But @JoAnne, what about all the threats of physical violence and retribution from the board and the J Place Elitist Faction?
I have never experienced any of that and I’ve identified myself from the beginning on this blog
You know Cox, I have pretty much agreed with most all of what you have commented on when it comes to the Pandemic. But, I can get past the fact that while you preach on you overlook the fact that you are one of those who made the selfish choice to ignore the Governor and county's request to not travel down here during the early days.
As others have pointed out, pretty hypocritical.
It is interesting to observe that many who sign "anonymous" can't manage to distinguish one commenter from the next, so are happy to ascribe a conglomerate of progressive or paranoid comments to those of us who DO give our names routinely.
It is common knowledge that some people use their political position to cause problems for their enemies. The HOA is not an exception to that. There is no evidence that anyone has been bedeviled in such a way by any Board members. What we do know is that the Blog has been used to denigrate individuals by ganging-up derogatory comments about someone. Seated Board members Johansen and Blagg were continuously dragged through the mud.
The Board's 3 year legal effort to harass Johansen ended in a Superior Court effort that the HOA withdrew from, and Johansen sued for and won , all of his expenses paid by the HOA. Needless to say, the HOA has the clout, but a history of failure in pursuing such vendettas.
Johansen has penned the term "faction" as a term for the forces within the BOT that strive to control the community message More important than determining a derogatory term, is to understand that there is a well organized effort by some Trustees and supporters, to push the election of hand-picked candidates who will support the Tree Policy and status-quo agenda. They know who to contact and expect full cooperation or signed proxies.
There is nothing illegal about it, but it demonstrates the fear of any influx of new ideas or interests in progressive changes being made in Surfside. That's pretty paranoid and elitist. It has been a very expensive approach to try and defend, and really, is just not necessary. We can elect a variety of people without such drama and manipulation, and run the community in a more open way.
Love this sane post.
1244 - stirring the pot is your only purpose, eh? I seen a lot of criticism from you faction clowns, but absolutely nothing of any use.
Come back when you have a useful comment. Until then, just leave.
12:44....You know nothing about my activities. I was in Surfside for 2 weeks just prior to the "stay-at-home" order, returning to my Lacey home the day before the order went into effect. I came down to Surfside by myself for a week about 8 weeks later, to put weed and feed on the lawn, start the sprinkler system, and do some pressure washing.
I had been sequestering at home and rarely going out, wearing a mask when I did. I had no direct contact with ANYONE in transit, nor when in Surfside. The order allowed for travels deemed necessary, and care was taken in a conscientious way. I suspect that you are Mike Riley or some other nut-job, to continue to try and publicly shame me, when I have explained myself several times before. I simply made the point that if care was taken, checking on your 2nd property, and doing necessary maintenance was not a violation of the order in spirit.
You should work on your own self-image that is so sadly lacking you must prey on other people, and try to belittle them with b.s. you have conjured up. You are lower than anonymous, far lower.
Why pick on steve. Covid brought in by the mass of mask less tourists. Get a grip.
Steve, it's these very comments against you that have convinced me this organization is not worthy of existence.
Let's put it to bed, as another failed experiment of another century.
I do agree that HOAs seem to have been a social experiment gone wrong, for the most part. Well-intended and sound in an ideal sort of way. But people have a way of pressing politics and status into an otherwise simple concept, and creating a lot of conflict and dischord.
I think it would be far simpler to simplify the entire system. Get rid of the Tree Policy to minimize HOA micro-management and legal expenses, and otherwise, leave the covenants alone. Analyze what might need immediate changes, make them, and stay with the basic format. It's good, and just a typical set of standards.
But we don't need 9 Trustees and a slough of committees. Anyway, sort and simplify, and strive to minimize enforcement entanglements and legal expenses. This is something the BOT has used for entertainment and intrigue, and enforcement has become an unnecessary focus of the current Board. Eliminate the Tree restrictions and end the constant legal notices and conflicts being generated by the HOA.
Because we have a large bank account, the BOT is pissing away vast sums of money on legal excursions and studies that are not acted on. There seems to be no real clear objective, and there is no effort to keep the members informed. To fix this , we need fair and honest people, and a new approach. I'm not planning to run for the Board, but there's about 4000 members able to run.
See 12:44. You're a nutjob for questioning the almighty Cox. How dare you. His lawn is much more important than any global pandemic.
No Cox, that wasn't me. By the way Cox, my organization skills are very good. I have no problem organizing my sock drawer.
What are you talking about Cox? Social experiment gone wrong? Please, another 3 paragraphs or make it a seven paragrapher.
Thanks for calling me a nut-job Cox. Is that like almond or cashew nuts? That's much better than little mikey, crazed weasel, bottle man, or hobbit.
Martin and I talked at last year's Annual Meeting. Did I act like a nut-job at the meeting? Nobody kicked me out. Gary Williams grabbed the microphone out of my hands, but he never called me a nut-job.
When I'm in the local businesses, I'm afraid for my personal safety because of the attacks and abuse on this blog.
Well, do we have one, or do we have 2 nutjobs ? And seriously 8:31, you are concerned that someone will assault you at the store over your Blog comments ? How would they identify you ? Just yell "Hey anonymous !" and see who looks back ?
Nothing will ever change in Surfside, because a simple discussion on the Blog deteriorates into Mike Riley's meltdowns and vendettas, and reasonable people are chased away. While the Blog could have constructive effect without the hijackers, only a few of us are paying attention to what the HOA is doing, and would seriously like to see constructive changes make it a better and more inclusive community.
Only expanding the voting base has the potential of electing candidates who will serve the entire community, and not just the J Place agenda. The same conservative voters who elect J Place candidates annually, aren't going to approve of dissolution, or any significant changes in policy.
At the same time, Mr. Clancy isn't going to get his Fascist dream of a community required to take his purity test. That is the premise of institutionalized discrimination, forbidden by State law. If you are an HOA member w/out debts to the community, you are eligible to run for Trustee positions. I hope some good people DO choose to run.
I agree Steve, the continuous snarky remarks add nothing to an intelligent conversation ir discussion. Again I ask, how many seats are up for election? 3 or 4? Watching Clancy’s rant Saturday about having to pass some kind of test before they agree you can even be a candidate is enough to scare off anyone!
Also any comments on the board hiring a person for the new IT Specialist position before the meeting, then making the motion to do so at the meeting?
Big words from Cox. They better watch out. Sounds like Cox will bring a lawsuit.
I'm not holding anybody back or stopping anyone from doing anything almighty Cox.
I hear George doesn't have time to regulate his blog. See hoa-review.com for a blog designed for members who want to actually get together, discuss issues, and do something.
You don't know me one bit Cox.
Keep whining on a blog with your know-it-all attitude, your self-righteous comments, and talking about yourself in the third person Cox.
There are 4 open positions: deLeest, Winegar, Williams & the seat vacated by Chandler.
I bet we don't even see 4 candidates this year, but the complaining will continue.
Thanks for the information and the snarky remark! Can always count on anonymous to be so forthcoming!
Well Joanne you get what you give. Bloggers are not known for their niceness now are they?
Really? I don’t post crap about people! I only ask questions and tell the truth. You can’t state once where I’ve attacked someone just to be clever! All I asked is how many seats on the board are open. There has been no official notice if this information
JoAnne - you see the pattern. If you're not in lockstep, you are wrong.
609 - back to bullying again, I see. Won't you ever learn?
All you have is aggression and b*******. Why not just shut up? We don't do faction bullies.
12:44-- Inslee cannot keep anyone from traveling to their 2nd home. We pay our taxes and it is our legal right to use our property. Surfside initially tried to keep residents out, we were sent 2 notices of not to come to our property...see where that got them, no where. It was just another attempt to keep people away.
Hey Joanna, those same lights you have on your front porch, you know the legal ones, the party lights, well the neighbor next door to Deleest has the same party lights. Sounds like selective enforcement if you ask me.
Yes you might say it was for sure selective enforcement! Not a one of the 70 plus places I took photos of last July have changed a thing! The only focus now is the PUD lights that are too bright for someone on the hill!
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