Friday, July 24, 2020

Poor Judgment

Surfside is displaying poor judgment by having a Golf Tournament on Aug. 22nd.   It is also poor judgment to have thr Tsunami run/walk on Aug., 29th.

Our community consists of many "high risk" members to the covid 19 virus.  It will be difficult to control the before and after gathering of people present.   Please don't attend and make a risk to yourself, family and friends.  It is just not worth the risk.   Of course this is my opinion.

27 comments:

Anonymous said...

And they are using Webex for the regular board meetings, which is fully capable and workable for member attendance, but flat out refuse to abide by the law RCW 64.38!

Steve Cox said...

Strange that energy is going into organizing these events, while there is no indication that any serious discussion is going on regarding plans for the election of Trustees. It seems apparent that November was set for the Annual Meeting re-schedule, because it was very far away 2 months ago when they canceled this year's elections.

There's no reason to wait until November, as an in-person meeting won't make any more sense then, than now. Efforts need to be set in motion by the BOT, soliciting candidates and planning to air candidate statements recorded live and made available for member viewing. I recently spoke with a member of an HOA that handles all of the election stuff through Zoom.

The election could easily take place without any in-person meeting, and all ballots sent by mail. October is not unrealistic to manage, given that the board pretends they do not have to leave office upon expiration of their terms. This needs to be addressed immediately, as it is blatantly improper for the Trustees to interfere with expiration of terms, without a solid plan to hold the election that THEY canceled.

JoAnne said...

I agree completely Steve! Members could file for the board, zoom could easily be used for the candidates forum and vote by mail! Our last HOA always had mail ballots!

Anonymous said...

Golf goes on because of individual whose ego runs it.

Ronda F said...

Do we know who for sure is running for the board?
What is the cutoff date to get your notice to run in?

Russ said...

This is hard to believe, when this pandemic is surging, and more restrictions are being put in place.
This will be a venue for spreading this virus.

Anonymous said...

Please read our governing documents. In the governing documents you will find the instructions on membership voting. Voting must be done in the manner described in the governing documents. The board does not have the authority to just change the manner in which we vote. Any change to the voting protocols would require a change to the Article’s of Incorporation.

Anonymous said...

Maybe the will put up some black lives matter banners and call it a protest. That would make it legit.

JoAnne said...

Who knows? How this whole process will work is being kept very quiet.

Anonymous said...

904 - I question the veracity of ANY election that involves this Board. We need independent verification, not a Board member saying ' its ok'. As to adhering to the rules, take that topic your buddies on the board and talk about why they haven't replaced resigned Board members, per the covenants.

Anonymous said...

Yes they do 9:04. Then change them! Hop to it!!! The Articles of Incorporation and the Bylaws can be changed anytime.
This board doesn't give a rip about the rules, as 6:01 describes. Don't preach the rules to us on this blog.

Rules doctor said...

9:04 OK lets follow the rule (laws). There are covenants that can be changed by the Board without approval of the membership. Then there are the by-laws that take approval of the membership to change. We all know a significant number of members would like to see some of the covenants changed. The Board refuses to do so.. The by-laws state that if a Board member leaves the Board before their term is complete, that member “shall” be replaced. This is much as Weingar and Olds got on the Board. This Board refuses to oblige. The by-laws State the term of a Trustee is 3 years. There no exceptions. The Board refuses comply. The by-laws State the Board shall hold the election of officers in their first meeting after the Annual meeting. There was no annual meeting, the Board held elections anyway, actually electing members that were no longer legally members of the Board. Then there is the requirement to be non-profit. The RV lot has made a profit for a number of years. A previous Treasurer hid this money in the General Fund. You can find out for yourself where that money went. Now, with minimal changes to the RV lot, he wants to double or even quadruple the storage fees. I guess that’s why Jim states and restates that “this HOA has more money than they know what to do with”. Seems as though the Board approves some new study every meeting. Oh, and by the way, that government “loan” is also “profit”. Theses people would make great politicians, or maybe pickpockets?

Anonymous said...

Right on Rules doctor! Nice work!
I believe this is more truth to shut these idiots up or point out their law breaking ways. Hopefully both lol!

I say pickpockets and grafters!

Anonymous said...

"We all know a significant number of members would like to see some of the covenants changed."
What that really means is that some posters on this blog would like to see the covenants changed.
The silent majority appears to be satisfied as evidenced by the statusi quo continuing despite the blogs rhetoric.
Member of the Silent Majority - not The Faction

Anonymous said...

Rules doctor, it seems to me that you believe some rules must be followed but others it is OK to ignore. What makes you any better than our current board?

Anonymous said...

You're right Rules doctor. Look at the idiot fool troll try to divert.

Good try to divert idiot fool troll!

Anonymous said...

Sure, anyone who has a different opinion must be a Troll because all of you of course are right. Classic I know you are what am I.

Rules Doctor said...

Never said to disregard any rules, just change them. 2:15, I have lived here longer than Clancy, Olds, and De lees and have seen the exponential increase in tree complaints since they arrived, and the creation of a community divided. You have them to thank for such things as this blog. OK so it says x feet. Why not change it? Took a survey of the 16 footers I could find and found there was a “ significant number” who would love to have the covenant changed. Even some J Placers (those who had taken High School Geometry and passed the course) agreed 16 feet was not harmful to their non-guaranteed view. So let’s see, it only takes 10% of the members to establish a quorum, will the Board respond to a quorum or will we still get the Board’s non-sequitur approach to creating harmony in this divided community? I understand your need to feel like the dominant presence, however, instead why don’t you grow a set and realize there are compromises that can be made on both sides? That is what we all live on.

Anonymous said...

Compromise - classic.
This blog is no different than many of the protesters - all or nothing.
we are supposed to trust your "survey" and believe it represents a majority of members or that the community is divided because the small number of posters on this blogs says so.
I think you would find many are capable of compromise but the vitriol on this blog doesn't create that atmosphere.
If you aren't happy, why don't you grow a pair and contribute something to a committee or some other volunteer effort instead of complaining here?

Rules Doctor said...

It has been a pleasure conversing with you 7:31. As I noted earlier I have lived here over a decade and helped on numerous committees (and I really don’t care if you don’t believe that). I hope the rest of your day is as pleasant as you seem to be.

Anonymous said...

More diversion tactics. Good for you idiot fool troll!
We see all your bs!

Anonymous said...

Thanks Rules Doctor, I wish you the same.
8:51 - by diversion I assume you mean anyone who disagrees with you...

Anonymous said...

Rules doctor, please publish your survey. You don’t sound like a long time resident. BTW, the bylaws state that a trustee will serve until someone is elected to replace them. Do you know what an adjourned membership meeting is. If not, check out Washington State law as it applies to nonprofit corporations. It will also tell you who can adjourn a meeting and for what purpose. For a rules doctor, you sure don’t know much. You must have graduated at the bottom of your class. From one troll to another.

Anonymous said...

Thanks Rules doctor!

Anonymous said...

Pour judgement for sure!

Anonymous said...

Trolls, and bad behavior by others are going to chase away the few good people left george. Might wanna just post your thoughts with no replys for a bit till the jerks get bored. Not like anything anybody can do without spending on a good lawyer. Prob what it gunna take, even if they spend our money to defend.

Anonymous said...

Here is some more poor judgment by our leadership. I asked Tom a few questions related to the water quality of our canals and lakes. I asked about the potential exposure to E. Coli. Tom acted like the water quality of our canals and lakes is just fine. As art of Tom's response, he said one can get E. Coli from the Air.