Maybe someone can explain to an old guy, just what is going on in this country and Surfside.
I have never seen anything like it in my life.
Starting with Surfside. How is it we allow members who do not even live here full time, how we here should live our lives? Why do members allow the killing of trees so that a few can see a sunset a few days of the year? Why does wasteful spending continue year after year? Is there anyone who would trust a Trustee on any decision they make, which by the way, are mostly made in secrete> The part time members, which are the majority, conyinue to be treated like second class members, yet continue to take it. There is nothing fair and equal in Surfside anymore.
Week after week we see the CARL (critical areas) promoted in the Weekender, by the very person who violated it on Seabreeze Lake, with member funds. We just sold a pickup truck because it was on the replacement schedule, for a thousand dollars with less than 100,000 miles. We continue to replace a mile of pipe every year with no proof or testing to justify it's replacement. We have a chipping program that violates county ordinances as a dump site.
Half the Country has gone nuts. It is the half on both extremes of the Right and Left. Us half in the middle suffer the consequences. The task force has done a great job in keeping track of the increasing numbers, while we die. We have idiots running around waving fllags and shouting. I can't figure it out and if you can, p-lease let me know.
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I'm sorry, to say the view is only about a sunset is a statement made from ignorance.
If you live on a ridgetop, you have a view. Nowhere in our documents is any guarantee that anyone in Surfside deserves a view. Nowhere is there a definition of what the "view" would guarantee, if there was such a privilege given to only a couple hundred owners. Special rights over other owners, to demand the topping of trees on other owner's property is a violation of State RCWs, providing a system expressly meant for discrimination of the many by a few. Such discrimination is a violation of State law.
The U.S. and state constitutions guaranty that certain rights, such as the freedoms of speech and religion, will not be infringed by the government. However, agreements and transactions between private parties are usually not subject to constitutional protections because only “state actors” are limited by constitutional rights. Southcenter Joint Venture v. National Democratic Policy Com. 113 Wash.2d 413, 780 P.2d 1282, 1292 (1989). As a result, homeowners’ associations, because they are not “state actors,” are generally able to impose limitations on constitutional rights that government agencies would never get away with. Golden Gateway Center v. Golden Gateway Tenants Assoc., 111 Cal.Rptr.2d 336 (Cal. 2001).
Keep preaching, take it to court Steve! You can’t beat the Democratic BOT unless you believe all people are allowed the same existence. The ridge gets what they want cause they control the government, the lowlanders just need to cower and accept the landscape destruction and increased dues. It’s just like the Federal government you support!!!!
And remember to wear your mask and social distance even after the vaccine is distributed. We are becoming a nation of sheeple. Thankfully there's no other diseases out there that kill at the percentage rate of the bat stew flu.
Accordung to Larry Taymer, past board trustee, long time tree committee chairman and local Surfside historian, over ten years ago the wording "view" was removed from the tree covents. This action by the board, was dome because they knew that there were questions as to the legality and they feared law suits. The entire tree covenant should have been removed at that time. The tree policy continues, and we all know that it is about a view. Any covenant has to have a reason for existing. As it stands now, there is no valid reason. It would be an easy win for any member who takes the association to court for damages suffered as a result of this discriminatory policy.
4:18 I think you mean Larry Raymer. He is one of the good guys and knows a lot about everything.
Why don't they have the commiyyee meetings on a Saturday and give everyone an opportunity to be on one. Most of the part time members can not come during the week. And why, don't they stream them or vidro record them on line? Only ones that can be a part of a committee are the click that lives here. Doesn't seem fair to me. I know a lot of us would be on the tree committee if they had it on the weekend.
I agree and the office should be open on Saturdays all year. They are there to serve us, not the other way around.
I have a feeling that your tree issue will not go away as long as residents continue to “ follow” the few that are usurping authority. Without an organized helper skelter resistance, those very few people who are subverting others will continue to do so. It will take more than the one or two who complain on this blog, a classic example of being too lazy to participate and then wonder why they have lost their voice in the organization. You need activists not just complainers. George, it is pretty much the same throughout the country., too many sheep being led to slaughter. There are leaders and followers. It is interesting that those who posted support for Democrats (I refuse to call them “progressive” as all they are doing is supporting socialism, an archaic system of taking away freedoms and replacing it with total government control of your lives). Mind you that these “supporters” have in essence thrown their support to violent tyrannical groups as Antifa and Black Lives Matter. Look up the leadership of these groups. BLM has nothing to do with supporting African Americans, but everything to do with, not Socialism but Totalitarianism and Soviet style Communism. If you support that, move to Venezuela. The most recent example here in the U.S. being the riots last evening where antifa and BLM thugs waited until cover of darkness to physically harm peaceful supporters of the current administration. Just watch the news, though as usual the mainstream media has chosen to mostly ignore this riot. I also think it is ironic that those left wing supporters in Surfside who vilified anyone supporting the current administration are going to be a part of spending $500,000 for a single police officer, 40 hours per week when the group they support are screaming to defund the police, a mantra that cost them many seats in the House of Representatives, where the Democrats projected they would gain up to 22 seats. Hopefully the gains made by Republicans, ironically supported by the radical wing of the Dems, will result in getting rid of the current Speaker. Well George, this post will undoubtedly spur responses from those who feel that in the microcausim of Surfside they can ignore anything they feel threatens their attempts to control. I admit they are a harassing, vociferous group on this blog, but probably would not dare debate the issues if called out from behind the internet.
3:31....The U.S. Constitution has nothing to do with defending an HOA covenant in court. My point is that you cannot defend the protection of views when views are NOT protected by Surfside covenants. And legal protection of the tree height restrictions then depends on offering a rational reason why trees are limited in height, since it is not stated that it is based on protection of views. That's the problem with trying to defend a policy based on a lie, that views are protected.
We have owned our Surfside house for 4 1/2 years, and have never received a compliance notice for anything. But I see Surfside member contributed funds freely used to implement and enforce the tree restrictions, and dog owners with legal letters and fines, when these restrictions are only favored by ridgetop owners. The cost to about 3/4 of the member households is an annoyance and financial burden that cannot be legally defended.
The HOA has favored buying a $100,000 chipper - the only purpose being to facilitate further enforcement/harassment of tree restrictions. This is bad governance. A couple of hundred owners demand annually that all owners with trees on their property west of the ridge, top their trees annually or biannually at considerable cost. And HOA funds are used to pay the legal firms that send the letters of compliance. This is discriminatory, and that is very obvious.
I agree that members should bond together and take the HOA to court on this. this isn't my fight, but I do feel for the owners who must cooperate against their will, and I don't think this is a residential landscape that members can be proud of.
Breath of fresh air 8:55. Very well said. Beware though, logic is a dangerous thing in these parts.lol
Qualifications to be accepted as a tree committee member: Female, live on or be friends of J Place owners, hate trees, rv'ers, lights and be a wine drinker. You can be the Grand Dragon chairwoman if your husband is a board trustee.
8:55 Trump guy. You lost. Get over it.
Re: November 16, 2020 at 10:25 AM
No, not really
12/14/2020 ---===>>>> the 12th amendment is the ultimate Trump Card, Cheaters and bullies always lose in the end!!
It's so funny how ignorant people are. Biden is not the president elect, nor is there an office of the president elect. Only the Electoral College (meets dec 14th), Congress, or the National Archives can designate a president elect. The media does not determine who the president is. Just wait for the Trump Card forthcoming, and watch something else besides cnn, msnbc, fox. I suggest newsmax or libertydaily online. And yes, I watch a number of media outlets to get a full view.
Main reason to see Trump win would to be able to watch Steve have a mental breakdown. Might make him go postal. I'll bring the popcorn, don't want to miss that.
Come on Doug Malley. Trump lost. Get over it! Deal with it! Don't use your guns though. This isn't a civil war, yet.
12:33.... Interesting the limited range of your sense of community and the purpose of voting. But it's already decided, affecting even the dark recesses where clueless people live (like yourself), Joe Biden is president, elected by a majority of about 7 million popular votes and a large electoral margin. A brilliant accomplished woman of color, Kamala Harris, is the vice-president. It's a done deal poser.
Also, after almost 5 years of Surfside ownership of our 3 bedroom place on the beach, we haven't received any non-compliance letters. I have no reason to "take the HOA to Court". 12:59 - I'm an old man, and yes, I was duly elected to be a replacement to Chris Chandler. No, I am not a vengeful person.
I volunteered my 3 years of service, and it was ignored. No big deal for me, but it's dirty politics and J Place control freaks that continue to f*ck with the community, to blame. I won't be voting or attending any bogus Annual Meeting.
Joe Biden, a guy who never made a payroll nor has any accomplishments in 47 years in public service except for a crime bill that imprisoned more black people. And kamala? You want your daughters to strive for her excellence by sleeping their way to the top? But I understand Steve is just becoming a bitter old man, probably supported all those peaceful antifa/bLM protests while conservatives burned down cities and attacked people.
Blah blah blah...Sane old bs. You need to stop watching FOX, and then you might have an original thought of your own. What a bunch of poor losers.
Well said 8:55, maybe everyone should slow down and read what was said. 12:56 I am not sure what your infatuation is with Doug, but he has a beautiful RV lot and have stopped and talked with him many times and he and his wife are very nice people, not sure where your gun BS came from but please go back to your mother’s basement and play video games!
5:46 and 6:38.are the same person along with other two liners in this topic. Such a masterful knowledge and use of language can only be accomplished by a true scholar. It is so refreshing to see the articulate expression of thought. Why this person must have at least a third grade education to have been able to express thoughts so clearly. Your true intellect (or in those case, lack thereof) shines through. If you can’t express a cogent, intelligent thought, I suggest you return to the third grade and relearn your lost ways. By the way Mr Cox, you must know nothing of Ms Harris’ past. As a former Californian it was common knowledge, to include newspaper photos/articles that Ms Harris was the concubine of Mr Willy Brown, the then Mayor of San Francisco, a relationship that led to her future in politics. In addition Ms Harris continues to describe herself as a Black Woman. She has no African American blood in her, look up her genealogy. That makes her a liar. If she thinks she supports Blacks, then why did she incarcerate so many on minor offenses? At some point the truth catches up. Perhaps when Biden is removed from office (which he will be by his own party) and a more thorough vetting will be made before Ms Harris moves into his office.
You lost....Get over it.
8:12. You are clearly off the radar screen and I'm scared of you. Please stay calm.
Black Lives Matter
So if a woman is successful AND good-looking she's a whore eh ? Your sexual inadequacy is showing. I've got nothing to feel bitter about. I'm retired bozo, and comfortably so. You're clueless.
The 1994 Crime Bill, vote number 384, passed the Senate 95 yes,4 no,and 1 abstain. The Republicans held 43 seats. That's a fact!
8:12....You are a sad little man, so preoccupied with race and conspiracy theories. Harris's father is Jamaican, and all of the Caribbean countries are a mix of racial and ethnic groups. These countries had slavery, and where did slavers kidnap their victims? Africa, self-enamored fool. Most countries are a complicated mixture of ethnicities, so turn over some more rocks for more twisted rumors and conspiracies. Who needs facts when you can just make up resentment- based complaints and fears.
How much business do you think they are getting on Saturdays?? I would imagine very little if any. With computers, email and every other tech available they can get you anything you want without working every Saturday
good grief
Good thing we committed fraud of the American taxpayer by taking the COVID-19 PPP money. We are living up to our intentions. We are also living up to our motto: let a little shit happen now and then.
"Who needs facts when you can just make up resentment- based complaints and fears."
Pot, meet kettle...
My my Mr. Cox has his panties in a wad. If we were to follow your lessons in genealogy a great number of us could call ourselves members of an “oppressed” group. You may be able to convince yourself as your views border on bigoted lunacy, but to use the label of “Black” you need look at your definition lest we all might be “black”or “red” or “tan” or whatever you want to curry favor. We suggest you broaden your current very focused thinking to encompass reality We are potentially stuck with a dishonest, socialist group of politicians for the next few years, but I have hope in the American public to cure that malady-you, not so much. Also stop being a sexist by presuming the post was made by a male.
Meet anonymous.
I fit in the Sioux Indian Nation but I am not out protesting and burning Cities, you took my country from me but I live with it! We build Casinos and take all your money since you took our land, The Eagle will someday come down and rip out the eyes of the worst offenders, but till then we will take your money at our Native American Casinos, we were the first “Americans “! Do not forget that!
Right on 7:20! I dated a Black/Native American originally from Oklahoma about 13 years ago. I was angered, frustrated, and disappointed after hearing of some of her experiences, some of those here in the northwest. If some of these racist bigots on here were ever treated like her at times, they would ball like little babies and their weakness would be on full display.
Give me a break Fox News 5:43.
Potentially stuck with a dishonest politician? No, we are kicking out one of if not the most lying presidents this country has ever had.
Sorry 1158, you're working off old info, obamma left office 4 years ago. Though I will admit, he was the best bLACK President we've had.
I don’t understand why Obama is called a “black” president? He had a black father and white mother, that makes him a mullatto, no ifs ands or buts!
11:00....Your comment shows your weakness of character and insecurity about your own abilities. What you should call Obama is "SIR". He was a very successful president who served 2 terms, and is representative of the amalgam of racial and ethnic groups that the U.S. and the rest of the world has become. Disrespecting people of different races is not going to give you a leg up in life.
Want to BE somebody ? Earn it like Barack Obama did, and the thousands of accomplished brilliant people of mixed race in this country.
It was the action of the Obama administration that pulled the country out of the greatest Recession since the Depression, put our economy back on track, and prevented Ebola from becoming an epidemic in the U.S.. It has been the inaction of the Trump admin. that has allowed the Covid pandemic to flourish, and the economy to tank. Trump is strangely colored, but surely very White.
Of course Adolf Hitler was the engineer of the Genocide of Jews, yet had Jewish ancestry. That's the problem when you start talking race and racial purity. It means nothing at all.
The reality is, all people have worth regardless of their heritage. Intelligence and talent, determination and goals for a future, have no cultural barriers but the bitterness and ill-will of small-minded racists. We all benefit on a daily basis, from the contributions of people of all backgrounds.
Nice work Cox! Well said.
Again, nice work and well said Cox. You have more patience with these fools than I do.
Ok Trump fans, I'm going to give credit where credit is due. Your boy is the ONLY president who has lost the popular vote TWICE! Something that will more than likely never be matched, at least from a Democrat.
Right on Cox and 5:05.
Also, if they want a civil war, bring it on fools.
Forgot to mention that he has made American #1 in the world........
IN COVID DEATHS!!!!
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