Saturday, December 28, 2019

Another attack at disclosure

Board Member calls blog host "irresponsible"...

Board Trustee Annette Deleest, sent the blog host two (2) Emails about posting Email addresses. Her Emails contained 15 pages of Emails between Board members. She wants to blame me for Emails sent to the wrong people as well as security flaws in others Emails.  I probably should thank her for the information she provided in the Board Emails.  Certainly fodder for future posts, and documented now, in hard copy as well as electronic files.  What is really "irresponsible" is Deleest in her false charge, is to include Emails between members.  With that release, I now consider that public information.  If I was a Board member, my "concern" would be a Board member attacking members and making false statements and accusations.

This is nothing more than an attack against public information being posted by the blog host and those who comment and provide information.

Below is one Email and my response:

Hi George,
I wanted you to see the results of posting the addresses of board and committee members online.  You have now jeopardized many members electronic security.  Much of this was generated by an unknown person.  It is very detailed and concerning.  This was very irresponsible of you.

Annette
Sent from my iPad


Hi Annette,
I do not know what the term "Email Spoofing" means.  Guess it is technical term that I am not familiar with.
What concerns me is that you forwarded a chain of Emails concerning Surfside Board Business.  These Emails should be kept between Board members and not shared.  You seem to be letting your emotional instability effect your Board responsibilities. I consider any Emails sent to me as public disclosure.  I am not a Board member, on any committee and the Surfside Chat blog has no official association with the association. It is social media.

All of the names you provided in the forward, including yours, are readily available on the Surfside web, and news letters.  The list of members with their Email address's is available for purchase from the Business Office.  Further information on members is available through Pacific County. That information includes physical owned locations as well as the mailing address's.  You will find that all of those who hold public office in Pacific County and the municipalities do list contact information including Email addresses.  This is done to provide contact information for the citizens.  This is also why the same practice has always been done by this association.  

When you choose to be in a position, volunteer or elected or paid, you are subject to accountability and communication from those you serve.  There is no such thing t as an anonymous Board, members or volunteers.

You may want to contact Mike of Mike's Computers in Long Beach.  He offers a computer course that you may find useful in understanding how Emails function.  I fail to see any connection to me concerning these Emails.  In fact my name was not included until you forwarded information to me.   I will not respond to your other personal insulting Email with it's false charges.  Any further Emails from you will be considered as "harassment"   If you find it difficult to serve on the Board or a committee without being open and transparent as well as available to members, you should consider resigning.

Thank You,
George Miller
Surfside Chat, Blog Administrator 

From: "Annette Deleest" <annette.deleest@comcast.net>
To: "George Miller" <gmiller002@centurytel.net>
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 4:24:05 PM
Subject: Fwd: Email Spoofing

Hi George,
I wanted you to see the results of posting the addresses of board and committee members online.  You have now jeopardized many members electronic security.  Much of this was generated by an unknown person.  It is very detailed and concerning.  This was very irresponsible of you.

Annette
Sent from my iPad

12 comments:

JoAnne said...

Merry Christmas! What a great gift😁

Anonymous said...

The email sent to you once again has Fred Written all over it. I don’t think Annette is quite that despicable, however she and her close associates do believe they are better than the rest of us, but again her husband is the one with a hair trigger. Given that she has joined Mr Clancy as focal points for disgust with the Board, it would be in the best interests of the community if they both resigned from the Board and perhaps consider moving.

Anonymous said...

SCOTT WINEGAR
33916 East Kappler Road
St. Helens, OR 97051
(31904 I Street)
(503) 987-0623
swinegar@surfsideonline.org
PRESIDENT
EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE
BUSINESS OFFICE
LEGAL LIAISON
PATROL

GARY WILLIAMS
13204 – 156th Ave. SE.
Renton, WA 98059
(31007 I Street)
(425) 255-0889 (home)
(425) 237-6695 (office)
(425) 890-7553 (cell)
gwilliams@surfsideonline.org
VICE PRESIDENT
EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE
BUSINESS OFFICE [CO-TRUSTEE]
LEGAL
FISH AND WATERWAYS

RUDD TURNER
PO Box 626
Ocean Park, WA 98640
(31801 G Street)
(360) 852-2674
rturner@surfsideonline.org
BOARD TREASURER
EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE
BUDGET/AUDIT INVESTMENT [CO-TRUSTEE]
INSURANCE
FISH & WATERWAYS

KURT OLDS
PO Box 1307
Ocean Park, WA 98640
(34509 J Place)
(360) 573-0711
kolds@surfsideonline.org
BOARD SECRETARY
EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE
ARCHITECTURE
FIREWISE
WATER SYSTEMS

ANNETTE DELEEST
703 – 357th Street
Ocean Park, WA 98640
(206) 799-0004
annette.deleest@comcast.net
COMMUNITY RELATIONS [CO-TRUSTEE]
TREE & NOXIOUS WEED [CO-TRUSTEE]
ARCHITECTURE

MARK SCOTT
PO Box 17
Ocean Park, WA 98640
(30802 I Street)
(360) 607-0807
mscott@surfsideonline.org
MANAGEMENT
COMMUNITY RELATIONS
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT

JAMES CLANCY
PO Box 496
Ocean Park, WA 98640
(31805 J Place)
(360) 665-0077
(602) 206-7674
james.clancy.wa@gmail.com
WATER SYSTEM PLANNING
LAND AND BUILDING
FISH & WATERWAYS

RIC MINICH
3304 J Place
Ocean Park, WA 98640
(503) 255-4263
(503) 780-1516
ram08pdx@hotmail.com
WATER SYSTEMS PLANNING
LANDS AND BUILDING
COMPACTOR/RV STORAGE

Anonymous said...

Mike Challis is no longer in the area and I do not know who he sold his business...just an FYI.

I think we now know why SHOA is NOT operating as required by RCW's that pertain to open disclosure of ALL business data. Paranoia seems strong in this one...

Anonymous said...

She doesn't know what she is talking about, all this info and more is available publicly, all you have to do is look for it.

Endangered, not unless you have been doing something dangerous?

Anonymous said...

More complaints on the way, coming back from compactor saw women making notes as she walked down the street. Stop,take a note.stop, take a note,etc... smh

Anonymous said...

I'm confused. It appears Annette doesn't live on J...No? Yes?

Anonymous said...

They live on J Place. They sold their old place and moved to J Place. They are now a part of the elitist group, but that does not make them nice people. They are not. They are just more on J Place that give a bad name to all on J Place. Most who live on J Place are nice people. They need to move, as they are not welcome any where in Surfside.

Anonymous said...

Labeling as elitist all those who live on J Place is an insult. I live on G because it's closer to the beach and was very affordable when I moved to Surfside. If I had more money I could see myself on J. Less mosquitoes and less traffic and rv's. Nothing elitist about it at all. Would you live on the deep East side if you had the means to avoid it? I think not. Preferences.

Anonymous said...

Sounds elitist to me with comment on east side. I chose to stay out of g to j, cause it looks like cr@#. Didnt move out here to not be in nature.

Anonymous said...

Nothing elitist about telling it like it is. The houses on the road to the dump are beyond sad looking. Follow the meandering loop out to Skating lake and tell me the houses there aren't sad and in need ot serious repair or at least upkeep. Just because you're on the lower end economically doesn't excuse you keeping your property in good condition. Curb appeal people.

Anonymous said...

12/31/19 12:18 PM: Let's form a group to help lower end economic members with upkeep and repair.