I will not be voting for any of the three (3) candidates on the printed ballot. I will be writing in the names of the three (3) that I think would serve the members well in the event there occurs a vacancy during the coming Board year. Say for instance that Patrick sells and moves and Gary Williams is voted off the Board or resigns, there will be positions to be filled by appointment.
The three on the ballot will be elected. This is nothing against any of them. It is only a tactic that the choice will be a member choice and not a chance for the Board to get another yes man or woman on board. By writing in the three I suggest, will put some power back in the members hands.
The three I am voting for as write in's.
Deb Blagg
Steve Cox
Al Franklin
Remember only three total allowed including write in choices.
There should have been another box which says..None of the Above.
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| And yes I will put the month. The above is a proxy. I will get a ballot at the meeting. The above is for those who do not attend. |
69 comments:
Wow...If Deb and Cox get on the board, I'm moving!!
Ridiculous!!
U Haul would experience a huge increase in business. I also would pack up to get out of here.
We don't want show boaters like Blagg and Cox anywhere near the board. Don't know much about Franklin.
I'm with you George! We can hold a big going away party for the previous three anonymous posts - NOT!!
Ok, no matter what side of the fence you are on please explain to me this. Ms. Blagg came on her and stated she didn't want to run for re-election. Among her reasons stated was that she felt she wouldn't have the time for it with her wanting to travel, spend time with family, etc. I respect her for doing this. So if she has said as much why put her in the position to be on the board when she doesn't want to be? I just don't get it. The same with any other write ins who have shown no interest in being on the board.
The power is in the members hands no matter how you want to spin it. The members had the power to run for election on the board. People that were actually interested in serving did just that. Now the members have the power to elect them. If you don't like the choices either run yourself or find someone you want to do so.
I also find it shameful that the character assassination has once again started against the candidates before they have served one day. This goes on here every year.
Better yet. Don't vote or return a ballot for proxy voting. Send the message that the phony elections are done. Make sure that the 10% quorum is not met. Send a clear message.
No comprehension has again spoken without understanding what was written.
There is no character assassination of the 3 declared candidates. At this point, they seem like fine people to me. The character assassinations have been against Blagg and Johansen. Al Franklin has attended many Board meetings, been on the Tree Committee and run for the Board. He is now (I think) on the Emergency Management Committee.
The 3 write in's I suggest are all good honest people. Would they be willing to serve a fill in position until the next election? I don't know, but probably, because they care about the members. They can always decline the position if it comes up and pass to the next highest vote.
This is a message to the Board that the members are not fooled by the game playing to continue the status quo. You will see proof of this when a Board member makes a nomination from the floor. I even question if this is legal for a Board member to make a motion.
This post is about filling vacancies that may happen on the Board and the appointments that will be made.
To all. Please note that when I went to seal my proxy vote envelope there was no glue on the envelope, this would make it easy for the paper to "fall out" in transit. Make sure you seal your envolope before mailing.
They are those new fangled envelopes that have a tape strip over the glue. It is so you don't have to get cut licking the glue. They cost more than a regular envelope.
Not the one I had. Tried that.
I thought you had to return the ballot or the board would vote for you
https://www.yahoo.com/news/sen-al-franken-resigns-amid-165513526.html
Al Franken? Used to be a pretty funny guy!
1:22 PM you are so uninformed or illiterate that it frightens me.
The current BOT is beyond dysfunction, with Williams appearing to be making legal decisions himself, purporting that the "Executive Committee" is making the decisions outside of meetings. The "Executive Committee" has no such authority, Williams has no independent authority, and these decisions are required by State RCWs (and our covenants) to be reviewed and voted on by the ENTIRE Board, not an imaginary "Super-entitled" group.
The status-quo champions talk a lot about enforcing the covenants, and the preciousness of the covenants, how they must not be changed or revised in any way. Yet here we have their choice Trustees, happily ignoring the covenants, ignoring proper procedures for approving expensive legal council, now into the $20,000 to $30,000 range for 6 months of 2018.
Blagg and Cox seek to bring these irresponsible actions to the attention of members, and ask for common sense solutions. That's not showboating !
If having fair-minded, common-sense thinkers on the Board is threatening to these members here, "ready to move", this may be a great write-in option.
What we need is people who do NOT want to serve on the board to fulfill their personal wishes for changes to the covenants based on the views of a minority of members. Blagg, Cox and others have agendas that have nothing to do with the will of the majority of members. We don't need the self servers on the board. We need honorable and trustworthy individuals who will put aside their own concerns for the benefit of the association and all its members.
Transparent communications to members needs to be improved without a doubt. We have too many members who have no clue about what is happening in their HOA. With sufficient and timely information being available, input from the entire membership should be considered in any changes to the covenants. Blagg makes me nervous because she feels free to use communication opportunities to push her personal opinions and agenda. Likewise with Cox. I worry that Blagg's interest in improving communications is more about pushing her agenda than truly delivering transparent information and data to the members.
Why is no information available regarding the asbestos pipe issues? Where are the monthly reports from committees and the water dept. that should include full disclosures. Descriptive and transparent information should be available regarding covenant violations as an incentive to obey the covenants for the benefit of the majority of members. There likely could be a mile long list of things that the members don't know because the board has chosen a hush, hush policy to cover for mistakes and poor management.
If you don’t vote the board votes for you
Shoa’s legal council serves the board, not the membership. Think about that folks!
What kind of empty-headed fool would seek to serve on the BOT without having opinions on community issues ? Ideally, candidates would be willing to state their opinions on any/all community issues, honestly. That does not an agenda make.
In 2018 there seems to be no memory of the fact that governing is about compromise. Where there are differing opinions, solutions still need to be found, and finding common ground is how government at all levels is supposed to work. We don't see that in State or Federal government these days, and we see stalemate on most important issues. The same has been true in the HOA boardroom.
This commenter is "afraid" of what ? Blagg has not pressed an "agenda", but has worked hard to try and bring better communications to the community. That goal is tied to bringing electronic voting to draw much more participation into Annual elections, and in general, more interest in the welfare of the community.
No one will have success in this community, pushing an unpopular agenda, or trying to radically change community standards. But our community is failing miserably at addressing problems because the BOT is so pre-occupied with preventing problem solving solutions - which REQUIRE change.
The Community resisted addressing water quality until the State demanded it. The community was forced to make serious changes, and our new Water plant is an awesome improvement that addresses long-term, the necessity to have plenty of clean water.
Things in Surfside will only get better when everyone comes to the table ready to work together. We now have Gary Williams calling the shots, making backroom deals out of the light of day, for our community with a 1.2 million dollar annual budget. That is clearly messed-up.
How can we eliminate the board and start again. I’m afraid of the board and this whole HOA I know from what I read and what is said that if you cross anyone on board or complain you are the next target.
SO why aren't any of these people running on their own?? Why aren't the people calling for resignations running for the board?? Seems to be this is just about bitching but not actually participating. You can't have it both ways folks
I read what happen to the man about the shed and he is on the board. One person on the board has it in for him and look what happened at least he had the money to hire an attorney. I know he was refunded but he still had to have enough to get it started. And he was in the rights of the covenant so that just shows you how bad this board is and the board is still after him spending our money
Patrick chose to sue the board over a year after the board dismissed the complaint against them both!!!!!!!!!!! Why doesn't anyone get that?? He came after association over a year to recoup money that he never had to spend!!! He made the choice to get a lawyer, then made another choice to sue us a year later! Explain how this guy is the hero in this story!
11:06 AM your statement is so ridiculous I don't really know how to respond to it. If you throw away your proxy NO vote is cast. If you submit a partial proxy and fill it out properly (my 3rd grade grandson could do it) that's all that is tallied. Your lack of knowledge indicates that you do not deserve a proxy or a ballot at the meeting.
12:39.... Don't know where you got your information, but it is WRONG !! Small Claims Court ordered the HOA to refund most of Johansen and Ottersen's legal costs, and the HOA did so. After Johansen asked for a written statement exonerating he and Ottersen, the HOA refused Patrick's request, filed an appeal against both of them in Superior Court, then failed to file their paperwork by the set deadline.
They then dropped the appeal, and charges against Ottersen, but filed a lawsuit against Johansen. Then Williams tasked Mark Scott with offering to drop the lawsuit, if Patrick would agree to sell his property in S.S., move out of the community, and resign from the BOT.
It has not been established that Patrick is in violation of ANY S.S. covenants, Williams has no authority to threaten Johansen or offer "deals", and neither does Mark Scott. Scott and Williams have made a very big boo-boo here, getting into seriously illegal musings that put the HOA in jeopardy.
We can add that to the State's investigation of our asbestos mishandling, in our assessment of the president's rogue efforts, unapproved by the Board of Trustees.
If you attend the meeting, you cast your vote at the meeting and don’t need to return the ballot. You can use the envelope to return your Technology Survey if you haven’t done it already.
If you don’t plan to attend the meeting, nobody will vote for you unless you return the Proxy Ballot.
If you return the Proxy Ballot, the Board will vote for you unless you designate a proxy by name, complete the form and send it to the DECC in the postage-paid envelope provided.
You need to participate in the Annual Meeting, ideally in person, but if you can’t come then participate by Proxy. We need 10% of Members in person or by proxy to have a quorum.
All write-in candidates must be present to confirm their willingness to serve.
Sorry George, you are either not reading your own blog or are choosing to ignore. People have been on here posting rumors and such about Mr. Rudd and less than nice comments towards Mr. Chandler. That was the purpose behind my my comment.
And I'm sorry, to say that Patrick and Deb are the only ones that are being talked at unfairly is a joke. There is just as many if not more aimed at the other Trustee's by you and others. Just look at the term "mafia" that is used as only one example.
Back to my original comment, I still don't agree with this write in drive. I would rather see people not being replaced than doing so with people that have not shown a willingness to be on the board and go through the proper steps and definitely not someone who has stated they don't want to or have the time to be on the board.
We can agree to disagree on that issue.
Please note that while I appreciate George’s support, the past year has taught me that serving on the Board with the current slate of Trustees is not something I am willing to repeat. With Williams doing everything in secret and excluding 5 Trustees from his decisions and actions, it is a waste of time. The hoops I was dragged through just to get a group together to study Technology options for Surfside was beyond ridiculous. Voting AGAINST putting the ballot on our website was even worse.
Anyone with a heart & mind for integrity, honesty, fairness and kindness will not be happy or successful on this Board. It was by far the worst public service position I have held in my 40+ years of community involvement. The only way I would even consider accepting another term is if we clean house first. We would be better off to dissolve our HOA and start from scratch, than continue with the current Trustees who have proven to dismiss the interests of 75% of the Members, squandered our funds on frivolous law suits, blatantly ignored the RCWs and laughed in the faces of the Members they were elected to serve.
Don’t elect anyone to the Board who isn’t willing to commit themselves to serving the entire community - by bringing everyone together and attempting to balance the needs and wants of everyone!in Surfside, not just a select few and their cronies. It is called Servant-Leadership and this group has no idea what it means.
All candidates do not have to be present to confirm their willingness to serve. There is nothing in the documents that states that. A very few years ago, Larry Amundson was nominated from the floor by a Board member. He was out of the area at the time. When He returned, he declined the position. Don Shelton was the next runner up and served on the Board for three years. I was the one who nominated Mr. Sheldon from the floor. This is an example where a floor nomination won a seat on the Board. There may be other examples before my time here. A person nominated from the floor does have the opportunity to address the members present as well as the candidates who are printed on the ballots.
You will notice that when Janet Cory reads the vote tally, she will include the names of all the write ins. Even those with as few as one write in vote will be listed. Nominations from the floor are important and can have results down the line.
Another important item that people overlook, is that the vote for a Trustee will be done, regardless of a quarum present or not. Other business could not be conducted.
George, I’ll defer to you experience in Surfside, but my understanding is that quorum is required for any business to be conducted. Not that this will matter because I’m sure there will be a min of ~230 members who vote by proxy and/or in person. I was given the info about being present and will check the governing docs on that. Thanks for keeping me straight!
Don't see how any action can be taken in regard to votes or trustees if there is no quorum to officially call the annual a meeting to order. Fingers crossed that member simply refuse to vote this year to send an unequivocal message to the board and to demand the rescheduling of the required annual meeting. I you have already submitted a ballot, contact the office to demand that your vote(s) be cancelled and returned to you.
Although it is still early and there are many nominees up to now, I think 2:49 will be the clear winner in this years "Most Overly-Dramatic Comment of the Year" award.
Congrats.
Does anyone actually know what Patrick does for a living??
Does anyone really care, besides you?
A question. Since the BOT seems to appoint the next highest vote fetter to the Board, does this mean tha t with current circumstances, that should a Board resign, that the next highest vote getter would be one of the write-ins and would be appointed to the Board, or would they magically determine they didn’t need another member?
I care about who I throw my vote toward, just wanting more info since he and Deb our out talking to people about giving her my vote. Not sure that snotty comment was necessary since we are about to vote. They are asking us to give over votes why can't we get more info on them?
Go to surfsideonline.org and read the entire candidate application.
That only shows the 3 that are running this year. I was not here when Patrick and Deb ran, so I just wondered if anyone knew.
Deb has made it clear that she is not interested in candidacy in this election, so she is NOT out canvasing for herself, as stated here. Unless members are prepared to remove Williams from the BOT, he will presumably get away with pretending he alone can make HOA decisions.
Mr. Williams CLAIMS that the "Executive Committee" has the authority to meet and make decisions outside of BOT meetings, which is false. The entire Board has the authority to make urgent time-sensitive decisions outside of meetings. It is required by both the covenants and State RCWs, that the entire BOT is consulted, and if all agree to a vote, those available vote on the matter, keeping minutes, or publishing the communications as such, at the next open meeting.
This has NOT been happening. Williams just makes a decision, say, to bring a lawsuit against Patrick Johansen, never consulting or notifying half of the Trustees - the ones who may disagree with him - Raymer, Blagg, and Johansen. (Scott is now in-league with Williams). If the community doesn't insist on honest legal governance, and remove Williams, only "yes" people will be welcome on the BOT.
There is no place for differences of opinion, or independent thinkers, - or democracy - on this Board while Williams is president of the HOA.
I received an email from SHOA stating that Patrick has sent an email to the SHOA members telling them how in his opinion showing up to the annual meeting would be a good thing to do.
Then in the second paragraph Gary Williams has in structed the office staff to send a email.to try and stop the members from attending as I read it.
I think they are trying to restrict our voting rights!
1:37 - you are very perceptive.
Patrick Johansen sent an email to members from his private email account. He did not represent that he was writing as a Trustee or on behalf of the HOA. This was a private email sent by a Member of the HOA to the membership.
Laura decided to draft an email to send on behalf of the HOA to all Members in response to Patrick’s private email, which he did not send to the HOA. She queried the Trustees about the letter and I saw four replies - both Patrick and I said we thought it was inappropriate for the HOA to send such an email. James Clancy, Scott Winegar and Annette deLeest approved the mailing. Gary Williams, Jim Flood, Mark a Scott ans Larry Raymer did not respond. Nonetheless, the email was sent with the approval of 4 of the 5 Trustees (I assume Gary approved since it went out under his name). This is yet another example of Laura initiating action by the Board and of Gary Williams’ complicity in another inappropriate action.
Clearly the Board does not want Members to participate in this election, as evidenced by the wrong date being published in the Surf n Sider for the Annual Meeting and the Board voting down my motion to put the Proxy Ballot on the HOA website. The minority faction of SHOA Members continue to overtly control the Board, the HOA and stifles participation by and communications between the Members at large. This blog and my Facebook page (Deb Blagg, SHOA Trustee) are the only public forums for Members to connect and communicate. The Board doesn’t allow Members to publish in the Weekender or on the SHOA website and deletes posts on the SHOA Facebook page.
Note that Patrick obtained member email addresses legitimately when he purchased the member records two years ago for $10, which the RCW says must be made public to all members at a reasonable cost and may only exclude unlisted phone numbers. The Board has subsequently decided $100 is a “reasonable” charge for this list - and they removed email addresses whether members requested this or not.
This Board will do all that it can to facilitate the exclusion of Members who don’t reside in Surfside fulltime, especially those who own vacation properties, RV lots and undeveloped lots.
I realize we all come to Surfside to escape the frustrations and confict of the “real world”. As nice as it is to camp, relax, fish, clam, beachcomb and toast marshmallows when you are here, the time will come when you will be personally impacted by our out-of-control Board as it continues to ignore the RCWs and repeatedly flaunts it’s abuse of power.
Gary Williams is an idiot and those who voted for him were duped or stupid. Patrick J. has proven to be a guy that most of us would want not for a neighbor. I hope the rumors are true that he is selling out and moving on. I live in hope that all the troublemakers will become so uncomfortable that they vacate this HOA. There are ways to make sensible changes to improve a community without stirring up trouble and hate.
Devious Deb rides again. She gets confused over what is fact and what is her opinion. The foolish mistakes of the board and the office personnel, Business Manager in particular, are embarrassment to all Surfside members. Devious Deb is right on it to push her agenda. Again, she forgets that there is a substantial number of members who make Surfside their year around or partial year homes. Surfside is not solely a vacation locale for a few part-timers.
Devious and Dubious Deb needs again to bring her property into compliance with the covenants. She has installed an unauthorized sign. Watch for the Dancing Deb spin on this fact.
Yeah boy, that sounds like a terribly worrisome situation. Thanks for being right on top of it !! You probably live across the street from them and monitor everything they do. Stalker huh ?
Dubious Deb is the one who has proclaimed that she is in full compliance with the covenants so lets assist her to live up to her word for a change. Yes, it is clearly true that anyone who lives across the street from Devious Deb is obviously a stalker. Go get some rest 12:41. Your fevered mind needs it.
Dear 3:10/9:09:
I really need to read this blog more often. Some of these FAKE NEWS comments are such a good laugh!!
3:10 says we have installed an unauthorized sign and 9:09 implies we don’t live up to the Covenants. Good grief! You need to get a life!
Our signs do not violate the Covenants — If you think otherwise, I encourage you to file a complaint, which is actually your responsibly under the Covenants (see para 5.1).
To be clear—
We have a sign posting our street address, which is actually required by the Covenants in para 5.13.
We have an RV permit which is displayed on our RV as required by the Covenants in para 2.9.a.
We have a “No Trespassing” sign and a “Parking Oregon Fan Zone” sign posted on our fence, neither of which violate the Covenants because they are not over 600 sq in and they are neither advertising, commercial in nature or for construction (para 2.8) nor are they lighted (para 2.17).
Sometime I suggest you actually read the Covenants - assuming you can read - before you accuse your neighbors of violations.
Love and kisses,
D4 (Devious, Dubious, Dancing Deb)
Ahem! Some of us think that an Oregon Fan Zone sign would be an advertisement to support the university and therefore a covenant violation no matter its size. D4 - you should be thrilled that your neighbors do not want to file complaints to stir up trouble in the hood.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
You just keep getting funnier! I guess all those people with signs about clamming, fishing, Husky’s & Cougars are also advertising! You know, y’all have just about beat the shed controversy to death. Perhaps you can replace it with the great sign controversy?!
Love & Kisses,
D4
There she goes again. We can count on Deb to push the limits and make trouble no matter the issue. How about taking down the sign and encouraging any others who have a questionable sign to do the same. Consider it a matter of demonstrating the good neighbor, good will image that you tout without any evidence to prove it.
12:56. File a complaint.
There she goes again so willing to stir up trouble with a defiant, un-neighborly attitude. I am very happy that she is not my neighbor.
I am very happy you are very happy. You don't sound very happy. My neighbor is not very happy. Are you my neighbor. I would not be very happy if you were my very happy neighbor. No, I am not you or Deb.
3:45, You have no idea how happy I am that I’m not your neighbor. My neighbors have never complained about our Oregon sign, because they are just plain nice folks and don’t feel the need to become enforcement police.
Please file a complaint. It will keep us all entertained for the next year!
A veiled threat from Devious Deb again shows her true colors.
5:40 - Are you a Husky, Cougar or Beaver? I’m guessing none of the above because they have much smarter alumni!
Hugs & Kisses!
D4
Congratulations on the juvenile question Divisive, Dastardly, Devious, Dubious, Duplicitous Deb. Again the nasty side of your personality is there for all to see. The descriptive "D" letter words are nowhere near an end Darling.
This funny exchange is losing its appeal. I agree, it is juvenile to be a mature individual with an uncontrolled urge to identify and post signs for a university that you attended or not. Blagg again identifies with dividing people and believing that she has entitlement. Count me in on being glad that I don't own property anywhere near her.
We have a serious psychopath commenting here - haranguing Deb with nicknames, beating this stupid subject to death !!! George. please stop printing this moron's comments. They are nothing more than vicious character assassination. Not funny, baseless, obsessive.... sick. Deb is trying to be reasonable, but this fool persists.
There is no reason what so ever to pick on this woman, unless you are a pathological idiot. If she wasn't an easy mark this "anonymous" fool wouldn't be picking on her. Some would strive to hunt this idiot down. Kirby ? Sounds like Kirby - the cruel dialogue, picking on a woman, the righteousness. He lives right across the street.
Doctor anonymous strikes again. Does it feel easier to make crazy diagnostic slurs at people who comment on this blog than to deal with the truth? Perhaps 8:41 should seek medical care to take care of those delusions. Accusing an individual when you really have no proof of who all might be making comments that you don't like is literally nuts. Take a breath and renew your grip on reality. Deb Blagg drew attention to herself and then objects when she gets attention. Those who took notice discovered that she isn't exactly the most honest person or upstanding individual in the HOA.
On my map, Kirby does not live across the street from Deb. Check it out and stop the lying.
He lives on the eastside of G St. within half a block of Blagg's.
You must have a problem with women who are confident and skilled, yet kind and open with people. Surely things you are not. Why so hateful, and directing it all at Deb ? That's sick, and I need not be a doctor to understand that this much displaced hatred has other sources having nothing to do with Deb Blagg.
Meant to say "westside" of G St..
I have no reason to think Kirby is behind all the negative comments. If he is, I don’t understand why. Whoever feels such a compulsion to attack strangers must be a pretty miserable person. Kirby and I barely know each other and live over 1/4 mile apart; he’s near 306th St, while we are near 300th. I’m sure we drive past each other’s properties often, but that’s the extent of our neighboring.
There is a name for people who are unable to control the urge to lie. It is a sickness.
THIS IS NOT WITHIN HALF A BLOCK OF EACH OTHER.
Deb Blagg address 30004 G
Kirby Smith address 30701 G
Blagg creates her own troubles and her supporters have limited brain power to cope with the truth. Consider that as you decide who you support in this homeowner's association.
Lesson learned. Don't hold yourself out for scrutiny unless you are prepared to deal with the fallout. Those people who rate themselves highly for integrity are often the least trustworthy.
US News and World Report ratings for colleges and universities reports that U. of Oregon and Oregon State U. lag behind the Pac 12. Blagg, you are wrong again or simply lying again.
I guess I am off a few blocks -that's called "incorrect", not lying. The point is not specifically who, but why ? It's just bizarre behavior, compulsive and just plain mean - over trivial b.s..
I'm not pals with Deb Blagg, I just find this juvenile bullying really annoying, and it targets someone without any ax to grind with anyone. Opinions, yes. So do most thinking people.
It is neither compulsive or mean to call out liars. In particular, liars who are pushing a self serving agenda with changes in the covenants. Blagg has been steadily engaged in annoying a lot of members from what I have heard. Her goody, goody façade does not fly when you take her at her words and follow what she has to say.
From "what you have heard" ? You are a flake. Lots of worry about "agendas". Golly, people with "ideas " ? Scary !! Suggestions ? My oh my.
Knock yourself out 4:37. Thanks for proving the point that Blagg supporters are not particularly reasonable or honest.
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